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 Post subject: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 04:26 
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Server: [Indo]Nuna
Character: Kutsukutsu (124)
Guild: LovelyDevil (SUPERSTAR)
I'm currently an instru main level 124.. There's an event in my server(indo) and i can get amnessia easily.. So i decided to change my main cuz i get bored of it.. Well i love instru but i just wanted to try something new..

Well.. I'm more of a skirmish > tbs >pve > PvP player.. I love ab skirmishes... Due to my current gear i cant really ab on GT , my only choice is detroit (lol i know i shuck)..

Im planning to change into either cannon or staff..
I did a bit my homework a bit (google.. A BIT..) well it is said that cannon is the best...
Well.. 120upgrade and 60 devast results in -6k Def why wouldnt it be the best? But i kinda dislike the 3x3 aoe... It's too small.. ( instru main's rava is 5x5 )
For staff main i prefer fb build (nuke) but i would have to wait for 4 turns to do that... Annddddd... IN AB mode it's kinda useless ( stupid A.I prefer to nuke 1 mob instead of 6 mob)

Sooo i kinda need an insight.. Which one is better staff or cannon for skirmish/tbs/pve (i dont care abt pvp.. As im more of a diary pvp'ers) ? And why is it better?


P.s oh while we are at it.. A bit off topic question.. If i change my class... Will the skill point i get from potential dissapear? As in i have to use the expensive potential to get it back again? (60sp = 400 million in my server not that EXP but i pref not to waste it , stingy u could say)


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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 05:49 
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Server: [USA]Argos
Character: YukinoAria (104)
Guild: FairyTail (Legendary)
For Tbs, Skirmish, Pve. I would recommand the staff cause they are pretty nice for them (Not to mention farming gold). Cannon is good too for TBS, and Skirmish. (Pvp too on my opinion).

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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 05:55 
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Location: Pangea - Indonesia - Medan
Character: SweetBlue (123)
Guild: BIG (1st)
Read this

battle-system-formations-pve-pvp-f8/topic1872.html

Also i think CannonM is not a good idea if you cant get high +cannon. And about potential, you loose them if you change your class.


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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 06:07 
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dont change your main then, keep instru, as you said you shuck. :D
just go staff main. cannon main= need more money and dont be lazy by AB, manuals are the best :D


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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 07:41 
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Server: [USA]Mycenae
Character: Yvitini (129)
Guild: Redemption (HandOfDeath)
if you're rich (read: you can afford at least a +7 dg cannon), then go cannon. If you're broke, and don't mind that your magic isn't gonna one-shot things as quickly at high levels, go staff.

Personally, I'd stay instrument main (yes, I'm biased). For skirmishes, get a nice "fuck you up" formation with multi-hitters, RM the holy hell outta the mobs, and fuck shit up with your mercs. I can do GT manually (not big on autobattle in there since the AI of mercs is fucking stupid) and I'm not super geared (best piece of gear is my +4 dg instrument).

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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 12:15 
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Server: [Indo]Nuna
Character: Kutsukutsu (124)
Guild: LovelyDevil (SUPERSTAR)
YukinoAria wrote:
For Tbs, Skirmish, Pve. I would recommand the staff cause they are pretty nice for them (Not to mention farming gold). Cannon is good too for TBS, and Skirmish. (Pvp too on my opinion).


Well i heard that higher level mobs 130ish has huge magic defense.. So.. Is flame blow still good?? I mean.. I dont mind if they survive with a little amount of hp.. But if fb oly deal 50% of their hp.. Now that what you call shucks..

alfikri5 wrote:
Read this

battle-system-formations-pve-pvp-f8/topic1872.html

Also i think CannonM is not a good idea if you cant get high +cannon. And about potential, you loose them if you change your class.



Ahh i read that before i make this thread.. Well.. I do understand that cannon are the 'best' for skirmish and tbs and pve.. But.. Is devast that great?? I mean.. My rava deal only -1.5k Def and my damage was multiplied by 2 *coughalmostcough* well i will be able to one hit everything after i DS .. But it's only 3x3 right?? I mean.. Rava is 5x5.. It's not that i disagree but i dont really understand the efficiency of using DS in tbs/skirmish..

bennymonster wrote:
dont change your main then, keep instru, as you said you shuck. :D
just go staff main. cannon main= need more money and dont be lazy by AB, manuals are the best :D



Lol ab is the best if u can ab in gt.. U wont even try to play manual anymore.. Lols..


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if you're rich (read: you can afford at least a +7 dg cannon), then go cannon. If you're broke, and don't mind that your magic isn't gonna one-shot things as quickly at high levels, go staff.

Personally, I'd stay instrument main (yes, I'm biased). For skirmishes, get a nice "fuck you up" formation with multi-hitters, RM the holy hell outta the mobs, and fuck shit up with your mercs. I can do GT manually (not big on autobattle in there since the AI of mercs is fucking stupid) and I'm not super geared (best piece of gear is my +4 dg instrument).



Must it be dg+7 dg??? I mean i can afford a dg+4 cannon.. And i will be having free decor due to an event .. Which can raise my attack by 1.2k... Is it still insufficient?? Lol.. I do agree that instrument have it easy as they have RM.. But i got bored with RM.. Lol..
In gt how much damage will fb deal?? ( with blessing and ST buff)


Ah i forgot to mention my formation.. (i dont know if this info is needed but who knows)
Vamp sherr hwa cannon invent druid piraate spartan

If manual i change my cannon pirate and invent to witch , elem and ora


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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 13:39 
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Location: Indo(pangea)
Character: Aisia (142)
Guild: Friendz (East Java)
Pawholic wrote:
In gt how much damage will fb deal?? ( with blessing and ST buff)





Lv 70 Fb will deal about 85% health damage to ranged mob and 75% to melee mob without bless and charm in GT, so FB combined with meteor will kill them outright(this applies too in robber hideout) ;) though the downside is you need 4 turn and those combo not good for AB since sometimes they just use it for one or few mob :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 13:51 
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Server: [Indo]Nuna
Character: Kutsukutsu (124)
Guild: LovelyDevil (SUPERSTAR)
Lagoonate wrote:
Pawholic wrote:
In gt how much damage will fb deal?? ( with blessing and ST buff)





Lv 70 Fb will deal about 85% health damage to ranged mob and 75% to melee mob without bless and charm in GT, so FB combined with meteor will kill them outright(this applies too in robber hideout) ;) though the downside is you need 4 turn and those combo not good for AB since sometimes they just use it for one or few mob :lol:



Yeah the 4cd is really annoying.. Well for the melee i will deal it with elem first.. My elem's blaze can deal appx 12k damage with bless.. So.. Whats main staff good for at higher level? I heard they are good as a support main.. For brutal tank and bol..
Is it better to go for nuke orr support?


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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 14:36 
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Location: Indo(pangea)
Character: Aisia (142)
Guild: Friendz (East Java)
Pawholic wrote:
Lagoonate wrote:
Pawholic wrote:
In gt how much damage will fb deal?? ( with blessing and ST buff)





Lv 70 Fb will deal about 85% health damage to ranged mob and 75% to melee mob without bless and charm in GT, so FB combined with meteor will kill them outright(this applies too in robber hideout) ;) though the downside is you need 4 turn and those combo not good for AB since sometimes they just use it for one or few mob :lol:



Yeah the 4cd is really annoying.. Well for the melee i will deal it with elem first.. My elem's blaze can deal appx 12k damage with bless.. So.. Whats main staff good for at higher level? I heard they are good as a support main.. For brutal tank and bol..
Is it better to go for nuke orr support?

Lv. 140:
Battle Magic: You've focused your studies on battle magic, allowing you to deal greater damage with your spells.
Increases spell damage by 25 (PvE) | 10 (FL PvP) | 3 (CL PvP) | 25 (TBS PvE) %.
Healing Touch: Compassion drives you, giving you a boost to any healing magic you cast.
Healing magic recovers 100 (PvE) | 50 (FL PvP) | 10 (CL PvP) | 100 (TBS PvE) % more.
Empowered Casting: You hold the balance of war in your hand. The effects of your buffs and debuffs are heightened compared to other mages.
Increases buffs and decreases debuffs of your spells by 50 (PvE) | 25 (FL PvP) | 5 (CL PvP) | 50 (TBS PvE) %.

Based on this talent they can go either as support or nuke, but since FB not effective in some africa mission it's better to go to support style imo(brutal will with more buff)

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 Post subject: Re: Which is a better main??
PostPosted: 06/19/12 14:50 
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Server: [Indo]Nuna
Character: Kutsukutsu (124)
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Lagoonate wrote:



Lv. 140:
Battle Magic: You've focused your studies on battle magic, allowing you to deal greater damage with your spells.
Increases spell damage by 25 (PvE) | 10 (FL PvP) | 3 (CL PvP) | 25 (TBS PvE) %.
Healing Touch: Compassion drives you, giving you a boost to any healing magic you cast.
Healing magic recovers 100 (PvE) | 50 (FL PvP) | 10 (CL PvP) | 100 (TBS PvE) % more.
Empowered Casting: You hold the balance of war in your hand. The effects of your buffs and debuffs are heightened compared to other mages.
Increases buffs and decreases debuffs of your spells by 50 (PvE) | 25 (FL PvP) | 5 (CL PvP) | 50 (TBS PvE) %.

Based on this talent they can go either as support or nuke, but since FB not effective in some africa mission it's better to go to support style imo(brutal will with more buff)



Soo lets just say i go for support... Soo my skill allocation will be 60 brutal 70 princess 30bol and 20 shield? == shucks... Lol..


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