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Hi guys.. atm, I'm a lvl 75 Saw Main on Mycenae, and this is my current Formation:



I usually love to go pvp, both CL and FL, but I wish to focus more on Pve/TBS until lvl 110+

I would like to ask your advice to improve my build, considering I would like to use 2 different forms for PvP and pve, but I wish those forms share the max number of mercs possible (so, I'm ok on switching a few mercs depending on if I go PvP or pve, but I wish not to switch every merc)

This is What I'm Thinking for my final PvP team, but consider it's still a loooong way to this form, cause I'm only lvl 75 and got about 2 bil in my bank account:



But I wish to ask you what I should take before I can afford this form, as a substitution when I'll reach the proper lvl (So, a cheaper "friend" of this build)

For TBS, atm I usually take main+Sham+Witch.

For my final PvE form, instead, I'm Thinking about something like this (Ofc, this is my wish team for a waaaay distant future):



and, as for PvP build, I would like to ask your advice on what to get first, until i will have the money to afford this formation.

I got a Sword and a Gun in merc rooms, and i got sealed orbs for princess and exo too.

Thank you.

well, for good info, use these topics from various point of views from saw mains and members of the forum. (thank you hardstyle ) if u still need help, just say so..

battle-system-formations-pve-pvp-f8/topic1388.html?hilit=perfect
battle-system-formations-pve-pvp-f8/topic1462.html

After reading both discussion, I've come up with this formation,, what do you think?



This formation is thought without considering IM mercs, because I'm still sooo far to afford anyone of them

Too many melees and no active healer, you should drop Spartan and add Vampire/Oracle instead.
other is okay i think.

since roro not in yet you'll need a monk for FL and possible CL as well

Just some advices:

-Don't plan too far into the future, if you are level 75, make a plan for level 100. When you reach level 100, make a plan for level 120. That's closer to your reality than some big dreams at level 150.

-Don't include unreleased merc in your plans, be realistic.

-Prioritize mercs who can help you leveling faster or make money first, like Elementalist, Oracle, General or Sheriff. Cheap mercs such as Spartan or Pirate might look attractive, but if you learn to ignore them before you have spare money, you will progress faster.

-There's a reason most people don't use Prophet for PvP. She's great in PvE though. I'm not going to judge whether she's good or bad, but if you plan to use her for PvP, make sure you have a specific strategy plan for her.

-Don't use more than 4 mercs of one type (Melee, Ranged, Magic) unless you have a specific strategy (a sure-win strategy) which requires that many mercs.

@ArchDemon: Even though I agree with your point, I think aekold's just trying to cut the cost, it doesn't look like he doesn't want a Vampire .

My bad.. Since I've started this topic, I've kept levelling a bit, and atm I'm lvl 92, So That's why I'm planning a little bit

I think you have a good point here, Maybe I've got too many melees, and I should think about some changes in my plan.. maybe I'll give up on Spartan, front row Druid and put an Elementalist inside.

As for the Prophet thing, I agree she's not that useful pvp-wise, I was trying to make some sort of versatile form for both pvp-pve but it seems it's really an impossible thing I think, pvp-wise, I will ditch her for monk.

As for the Roro thing, I was planning to keep Oracle inside until she will be released

@ArchDemon: Yes, halleylight got the point.. It's not that I don't like Vampire.. It's just that it still a loong way to get her for me.. I was being realistic (Beside.. Isn't Roro supposed to be an active healer too?:P anyway, She's not already released, so I will use oracle^^)

get a monk... just.. get a monk if u plan on Pvping.

No, roro's skill isn't for healing, it's a mix of awakening with HG.
the other one is a protect-like skill, which heals main char passively each turn.
it has a decent heal tho, lvl 50 Ocean's Blessing with hero IV upgrade heals around 2800 per turn, but i think it's not enough for heal.

Wow, I'm impressed by halleylight's advices.
For a newbie, it's good to follow his advices, you know.
Nuh-uh, Roro's skill is not for healing but it's to remove buff/debuff + awakening which make her more useful than Monk.
But you have to be realistic since Roro's not implemented in your patch.
Try to stick with Monk for your PvP, until you get Sacrificial Awakening and Roro.

@ArchDemon, haha you got it. Yeah, her OB can be a decent healing spell too.
I up her OB to 60 with hero II upgrade, and using charm. At least, I got 2600-3000 per turn.